Noland Explores – NFTs Series x Ismaël Chappaz

Are NFTs a revolution in the digital art world or just another bubble about to burst? 

N x NFTS, is a program aimed at those intrigued by digital art, NFTs, and their immense potential.

We interviewed many renowned artists and asked all of them the same question: Are NFTs a revolution in the digital art world or is it just another bubble about to burst?  

Today’s interview is with Ismaël Chappaz ,Ismaël was the founder and    co-owner of the design studio Tactelgraphics from 2005 to 2020.

He is currently the director of the contemporary art gallery House of Chappaz (Flat) in Valencia and the co-director of House of Chappaz (Basement) in Barcelona with Toormix Studio. He also acts as an independent curator.

What brought you into this digital art world and what is it that you find attractive and interesting about NFTs? 

I’ve had a Contemporary Art gallery since 2011 in València (House of Chappaz Flat) and I opened a second venue in Barcelona in 2018 (House of Chappaz Basement).

I co-direct this last one together with Oriol Armengou and Ferran Mitjans from Toormix studio. When NFTs appeared I didn’t find anything new or interesting, they were simply a new kind of format, not much more.

We have always had video artists/digital artists in the galleries who have obviously used the digital image as a medium. Several of our artists started doing NFTs. One thing led to another, and we ended up hosting the first NFT exhibition in a proper contemporary art gallery. 

Many artists are concerned about the climate impact of art sales that rely on blockchain technology and there is a lot of discussion about the massive use of electricity and the environmental impact this brings. What is your opinion on this?

If we get into that mood then let’s stop everything and dedicate ourselves to planting potatoes. It seems to me there are more polluting things than an NFT.

Nowadays nothing is sustainable, just look at what is really being fulfilled from the 2030 Agenda. Practically nothing.

This is not to say that we should continue destroying everything, but perhaps what we should do is be more socially aware before considering whether the electricity needed to operate an NFT is polluting.

What real possibilities of expression and experimentation do you think your art offers in the NFT world beyond monetization? 

 I don’t know, I’ve always been quite “enfant terrible”. I have a way of doing that is a bit different from the so-called conventional gallery. I’ve done things that didn’t fall into the norm. I didn’t set up a gallery for status or to become a millionaire. Any kind of speculation disgusts me if that’s what you mean by “beyond monetization”.

I have integrity and transparency; I have nothing to hide.

How do you see the future of NFTs in the short and long term?

As I said before, for me NFTs are nothing more than a new format for presenting work. I guess they are here to stay in the contemporary art world. Time will tell but for the time being, I don’t have a crystal ball to predict anything.

Noland Explores – NFTs Series x Fito Conesa & Siddharth Gautam

NFTS

Are NFTs a revolution in the digital art world or just another bubble about to burst? 

N x NFTS, is a program aimed at those intrigued by digital art, NFTs, and their immense potential.

We interviewed many renowned artists and asked all of them the same question: Are NFTs a revolution in the digital art world or is it just another bubble about to burst?  

Today’s interview is with Fito Conesa & Siddharth Gautam, they are artists and producers and their work has been shown at various art fairs, art centers, and galleries such as ARCO Madrid, Loop Barcelona, Matadero, CCCB, and the Cartier Foundation.

They are the creators of the first Digital Ninot Indultat turned into an NFT, and since 2019, along with filmmaker Aimée Duchamp, they form La Rabiosa Productora, producing film and video content. 

What brought you into this digital art world and what is it that you find attractive and interesting about NFTs? 

Well, it was a bit of a coincidence. While we were still studying how the sector was evolving and beginning to understand it better, we received an invitation to participate in a contest in Valencia; a bid to create a digital ‘ninot’ (which is usually a giant paper maché sculpture that is burned)  for the occasion of fallas (the local festivities). 

The winning entry would become the first digital ninot pardoned as an NFT. We were the winners, by the way, and this was our entry into the world of NFTs. 

At the same time, we were also participating as artists in the TFN exhibition at the House of Chapazz Basement gallery in Barcelona; an exhibition of NFTs created by the artists of the gallery, and that was another occasion where we exhibited another NFT piece. 

What we see interesting about NFTs – especially for digital artists – is the smart contract that ensures that creators maintain their intellectual and economic rights beyond the first sale. This can secure the author’s rights, avoid plagiarism, and push creation. 

What possibilities for artistic expression does the world of NFTs offer?

From Cryptokitties, to Winkelmann’s 5000 day, to Bored Apes, and VeeFriends, there are many ways in which creators are using Ethereum’s core technology to create and sell art, entertainment, and experiences. 

The decentralized technology, the number of selling platforms, and the high interest of the industry can provide a lot of freedom for artistic expression. It’s such a pleasure to see so many artists creating pieces and making money from this – free from traditional ways of working.

But on the other hand, the high speculation, volatility, and competition can cause many artists to tire and fall by the wayside of this boom. The industry is still evolving, and we have to watch how it develops.

Do you think NFTs have been a revolution in the digital art world or are they just a speculative bubble?

In many ways yes, for digital artists, having their rights secured on the blockchain and having an open marketplace where you can sell your creations is a freedom that wasn’t there before.

But still, how everything is linked with the high speculation of cryptocurrencies, it isn’t a utopia.There are cases of plagiarism, theft, gas fees, complications of converting cryptocurrencies into fiat currency, and the cost to the environment of maintaining decentralized networks. This could prevent the egalitarian artistic paradise that this technology aims to become.

How do you see the future of NFTs in the short and long term?

The technology is promising, but there are many things that need to be improved. At the moment there is a lot of noise and a lot of speculation – the promise of getting rich quickly – tilts the balance in favour of investors and not creators. It must be recognized that the old forms/structures of the market have to evolve, and this technology can be an option.

Noland Explores – NFTs Series x Isabelita Virtual

NFT explores

Are NFTs a revolution in the digital art world or just another bubble about to burst? 

N x NFTS, is a program aimed at those intrigued by digital art, NFTs, and their immense potential.

We interviewed many renowned artists and asked all of them the same question: Are NFTs a revolution in the digital art world or is it just another bubble about to burst?  

Today’s interview is with Isabelita Virtual, a multi-awarded Creative Director and photographer.

She has been awarded by Cannes Lions, Clio Awards and the D&AD Festival. The first Spanish woman featured in Times Square (NYC) with Midnight Moment.

Isabelita launched a luxury outerwear brand via NFT with Cape di Cour, which will be explained in today’s interview.

What brought you into this digital art world and what is it that you find attractive and interesting about NFTs? 

One year ago or so, Alejandro Mingarro from Brosmind mentioned NFTs to me and said it would be an interesting opportunity. I began to understand all the possibilities that the technology could offer me.

All my work is digital for several reasons. My first photos from 10 years ago were taken with very little resolution for large format printing as I took them with my phone. During these years I have had a lot of problems transforming the digital work into physical work and sometimes it seemed that if there was no physical work there was nothing… Before I got involved with NFTs, I found other ways to exhibit my work and give it value like virtual reality.

I participated in the Uncontaminated Oslo festival and I was able to exhibit in virtual reality. For me, it was an outlet for that digital work that I could not print in large format. 
  

In what ways do you see NFTs complementing the art world? Which benefits besides financial do you see in NFTs compared to more classical ways of creating and trading art pieces?

I believe there are three important benefits that NFTs offer: 

  1. Changing the status quo. I think we have to try to find other ways of doing things in a way that has not been done till now. For me, the most important thing is not the speculation or the future itself, the most important thing is to change the status quo and the idea that art is only for a few and is something elitist. Now, I think that many people have started to buy art and become collectors. There is a speculative part but there is also a part of supporting artists and demystifying the figure of the collector.
  1. Transparency. Knowing who has bought that work, where it is, and its evolution afterwards seems to be something incredible and necessary.
  1. The creation of communities, where the community makes sense again and ceases to be an element of accumulating followers or likes. Your power is not a like on instagram. You have real power to do things with others. 

What do you think about collectives like Worldofwomen? Do you consider it necessary for these platforms to exist? and is there also female discrimination in the digital art world?

I believe that the main motivation is not so much to support women in the arts but to educate within the world of economics, which has always been more linked to men.

Collectives like World of Women, what they achieve beyond giving support, which is also important, is to educate and break the stereotype that everything related to the economy and technology are male areas and that women only do art.

It is very difficult for you to understand the NFT world if you do not know what a Digital Wallet is, or if you do not know what Ethereum is. For this reason, these collectives are important. 

It is also important when it comes to backing up with NFT fraud or scams, isn’t it?

Yes, I know very few people who haven’t been caught in some scam, because the risk in the NFT world is “earning by doing”. That is to say, you have to invest money, and when putting money in a hostile environment you have to be very careful and cautious. 

Do you think the NFTs have been a revolution in the digital art world or are they just a speculative bubble? 

I find it hard to think that it will become a speculative bubble with so many technology companies and banks shifting to crypto. Everything is going very fast but I think that now the speculative rush is falling and people are trying to buy with more criteria.

For me, I only buy art that somehow either speaks to me or connects with me, or someone does something that hasn’t been done before.

The luxury industry, sports clubs, the music industry, the artistic ecosystem, etc… all have joined the NFT movement. Do you think the NFT world is focused on a more exclusive market? 

Mainstream platforms that reach millions of people like Twitter, Tiktok and Instagram have started to democratize it. The easier the access gets, the larger the market will be, where all kinds of contracts and all kinds of prices and sectors will prevail. If you are going to buy something that is worth 50€ it is very accessible to people, the markets will diversify and everyone will access these digital assets like we access them now. It’s normal that luxury brands have taken advantage of this movement because money breeds money.

But in the end, the more people buy – even if the price is low – the more money everyone earns. So it’s in everyone’s interest that technology is accessible at more affordable prices. 

How was the experience of working with Cape de Cour and what could you express with NFTs that could not have been expressed in any other way? 

It was a campaign launch. Cape de Cour is a luxury waterproof jacket brand where the material of each garment is a technological material patented by them. It made sense for a brand that was already working in the world of technology to communicate to its audience in another way.

We did the collaboration with a digital artist named Tony Murray, and he created the avatars and the space where this story takes place: It was two guardians standing by Heaven’s gates who controlled the weather and the rain.

The big difference in making this piece, which could be a communication piece, is that for the first time, a brand offered the piece itself to a client, that is, whoever bought the cape kept the piece. It was a way of talking differently, of explaining that when you buy the cape you are also buying the brand values, the vision, the technology. They made an unlimited edition of capes and the first 3 people who bought it got the content. It is a gift but at the same time, it can also be an investment for the same customer because, 10 years from now, having a Cape de Cour NFT could be much more valuable. 

‘Leofy.io’, a startup from Barcelona, will launch in April as the first platform in the world where you can buy NFTs with a credit card. What do you think about democratizing NFTs?

There are already some ways to buy NFTs with Apple Pay or a credit card.

I think what will make sense of all this is that, by democratizing it, it’s not going to be so important to understand the technology or how to gain access to the product being offered, but to understand the culture that is changing. 

It will be much easier to gain access now, although I don’t know if in turn, when something is democratized so much it loses a little bit of its magic. This is part of the game right now, to think that not everybody knows it, to discover new things, a whole underworld to be discovered.

It will also help to avoid scams, which I think is the most dangerous and less beautiful part of these channels that are so difficult to manage. 

How do you see the future of NFTs in the short and long term? 

At the moment I want to see it with optimism. For example, 10 years ago Instagram appeared and made a change. As technology got associated with photography, communities made Instagram or social media, in general, bring some excitement to the communication landscape. Now, just by forcing us to think differently, NFTs have already been a breakthrough.

I believe they’re here to stay, and I hope it is just the beginning of a different system from what we are used to. I hope we don’t repeat the same mistakes and apply the same system deficiencies to this new technology. That’s all. It would be great if there were mechanisms in place to enforce a better way of doing things.

Noland Explores – NFTs Series x Moon Ribas

Are NFTs a revolution in the digital art world or just another bubble about to burst? 

N x NFTS, is a program aimed at those intrigued by digital art, NFTs, and their immense potential.

We interviewed many renowned artists and asked all of them the same question: Are NFTs a revolution in the digital art world or is it just another bubble about to burst?  

Today’s interview is with Moon Ribas, a Catalan cyborg artist best known for developing an online seismic sensor that allows her to feel earthquakes through vibrations.

In order to share her experience, she then translates her seismic sense on stage. Ribas transposes the earthquakes into either sound, in her piece Seismic Percussion; or dance, in Waiting For Earthquakes. In these performances the Earth is the composer and the choreographer; and Ribas, the interpreter. Ribas’ seismic sense also allows her to feel moonquakes, the seismic activity on the Moon. Ribas believes that by extending our senses to perceive outside the planet, we can all become senstronauts. Adding this new sense allows her to be physically on Earth while perceiving the Moon, so in a way, she is on Earth and space at the same time.

Since 2007 Moon has been experimenting with the union between technology and her body to explore the boundaries of perception and to experience movement in a deeper way. Some of her previous research includes transdental communication, 360º perception and the Speedborg. In 2010 she co-founded the Cyborg Foundation, an international organisation that aims to help people become cyborgs, defend cyborg rights and promote cyborg art. Ribas also co-founded the Transpecies Society in 2017, an association that gives voice to non-human identities, defends the freedom of self-design and offers the creation of new senses and new organs in community.

We’re sharing her experience with technology and her perspective on digital art and NFTs.

 

Within the Cyborg movement, have you considered creating any project related to NFTs? 

We have talked about it and imagined many things but we have not yet taken the risk, it is still a new world for me and I try to understand it every day. At first, it was hard for me to understand it. In my opinion, art is something more tangible than ephemeral, however with the world of NFTs it seems that everything is infinite; that art will prevail forever, and I find that fascinating, but at the same time it creates uncertainties.

If I had to generate an NFT I would start from the basis of creating something that is related to nature like I have done previously with my work.
  

Case in point, Fenomen is a work in conjunction with Quim Girón in which we explore the uncontrollable force of nature through ice. The stage becomes a freezer and blocks of ice start to appear. In the end, the water floods the stage and wets us, highlighting its ephemeral nature. However the NFTs it is different, it is a perpetual form of art. In my case, I would do something that has to do with the ocean because I have always been very connected to the ocean since I was a child.
To be able to show that message of exploring how nature works, to see natural phenomena from another point of view and also to realize that, in a way, each one of us is a small phenomenon surrounded by other species. We are not alone. Nature is infinite.

In what ways do you see NFTs complementing the art world? Which benefits besides financial do you see in NFTs compared to more classical ways of creating and trading art pieces?

I’ve never really been too familiar with technology. Since I was a child I’ve had little connection with it. I had a cell phone at a very late age and I’ve always been curious about merging technology with art. In my case, I am a choreographer and I was looking for a way to unite the language of dance with what happens on earth.

In this case, for more than seven years, I wore implants in my feet that allowed me to detect the movement of the earth’s crust in real-time and feel in my body any earthquake that occurred under the face of the earth. I was very afraid to take them off, much more than I was when I put them on because in the end, these technological devices were just another part of my being. And when I took them off I was still feeling the vibrations.

I think that in the case of NFTs it can also be complemented in a similar way to art, as it opens up a world of infinite possibilities. The important thing is everyone’s right to not feel violated. We have a lot of work ahead of us and a lot to learn. 

Do you think NFTs have been a revolution in the digital art world or are they just a speculative bubble?  

I don’t want to sound pessimistic but I think it could be a speculative bubble that could burst at any moment. But that explosion doesn’t have to be bad, in the end, every big change brings something good, and we learn with time. I don’t understand too much about it, and I can’t give a very detailed view. As with cryptocurrency, it is changing all the time. I think the world of NFTs is something similar. 

Technology is developing and we are adapting. It grows very fast, but at the same time, we do not see the results until years go by. In this case, I think that NFTs are like the arrival of the Internet, at the beginning, it was a phenomenon that people did not have much idea about and they were adapting little by little.

For example, when the first email was sent. We have all been getting used to it without realizing it, but it has taken time and years. With NFTs, I think the same thing. We will not know where they have taken us for a few years yet. 

 

 

What do you think about all the frauds and scams that are happening in the NFT market and how is this affecting emerging artists? 

In the end, it’s like everything else. Human beings are constantly exposed to the possibility of breaking the rules governed by society. It’s complicated. There are always going to be frauds and scams. It’s like if they give you a knife, you can cut vegetables with it, and at the same time kill someone with it. The act of making something happen is inside each person. We can’t limit ourselves to not creating new things just because of this. Otherwise, it would be impossible. 

How do you see the future of NFTs in the short and long term? 

I don’t want to be pessimistic but I still think it could end at any time. It’s an emerging market that still has much to learn and changes very quickly. It’s hard for me to see it in the long term, but certainly, artists will have to adapt and at some point, I will merge my art with this one.